(by the way, while I added this px tonight in finishing the post, just look at the two side by side and tell me the nonverbal cues of Incognito, the white guy, and how he is physically bigger than Martin)
This is a post that will be evolving, as I am at work and had a minute to read my email, and when I got off the site found this link at Yahoo, that is hard to link later as their posts disappear at times, but it fits for the agenda of this post. The link (and hope it recurs when I finish the post later today):
In the article was this: “”The issue is Jonathan’s treatment by his teammates. Jonathan endured harassment that went far beyond the traditional locker room hazing. … Beyond the well-publicized voice mail with its racial epithet, Jonathan endured a malicious physical attack on him by a teammate, and daily vulgar comments. These facts are not in dispute,” hel added.”
as well as this at the end, “Dolphins’ players have defended Incognito and praised him as a loyal teammate with leadership skills. Teammates have been less passionate in their support of Martin, saying he and Incognito behaved like best friends.”
So, the dispute is gray, as it should be. But, read the link and see what other “wonderful” community activities Mr Incognito has engaged in with others.
I want to add this now, after listening to Clarence Mitchell IV at WBAL radio on two different occasions earlier this week, as well as Sean Hannity last evening on the drive home, these idiots who think their egos and need to defend masculinity and football toughness mean walking away from persistent bullying is a weakness and instead should DEMAND a physical retaliation, do we remember who gets penalized on the field in a fight? Not these fools advocating for violence. Unfortunately, the message Martin sent by walking away from a lucrative job, and being a professional football player IS a lucrative job, he realized taking a stand with the team, as noted in the second quote from the article above, WILL NOT be supported by the alleged administration/leadership these players have to answer to, and frankly, that is bullshit in a business as visible as football!
What we advise and counsel with kids is different than what adults have to consider, and it is unfortunate and lame we have people of influence in the community as illustrated in talk shows who think that dealing with strife is “punch it out”. Sometimes that is true, but, once again we have idiots who shove the matter into the box of “right/wrong”, “black/white”, and the box is the size of a thimble.
(and now the follow up addendum I noted I would do with the post this AM):
And now it is twilight on Friday night, and I have another link, this one a bit personal, being a Raven fan:
in it was this: “Smith added, “People don’t bully the strong links. So clearly there was something that he (Incognito) saw that he took advantage of. You don’t just bully anyone, and it’s very unfortunate. I’m not going to disrespect their locker room, I don’t know anything about it. But if you have great leadership in there, you can see what’s clearly a problem where it goes from being fun to a problem, which it escalated to and hopefully they’ll get it right.” “
What annoys me to no end with the pervasive commentary by Mitchell IV and Hannity was this focus that people who don’t fight back are “pussies”, and that word was used. “Wimps and cowards” being fostered in the community by callers who think that attacking back is the only solution, and I’ll bet some of those callers and alleged defenders of the Incognito attitude are bullies themselves.
Here is the point at least when dealing with harrassers in the adult world: People who “bully” at the job, the neighborhood, the extended family, and other more public venues are just cretins, they grew up having bullying reinforced and think that is acceptable and not to be challenged. But here is the little insight these above 2 talk show hosts are forgetting, conveniently or cluelessly and either are unacceptable to miss with this situation at least, throw in substance abuse and physically challenging an adult “bully” is taking serious risk for harm.
That video of Incognito ranting like a madman, and note the body language of ALL around him during his obscenity laced tirade, NO ONE showed any effort to try to redirect him. Whether it was steroids, alcohol, illicit substances like coke or opiates (and by the way opiates have a paradoxical effect at times with athletes), there is NO WAY you are going to reason with him!
So, all you defenders of Incognito and the system to justify this attitude of harassing and belittling teammates, what is the line to cross? Oh, some of the above felt the racist words were out of line, but, taking Martin’s money wasn’t?
Again, I write about this issue to shine the spotlight on the antisocial defenders and apologists out there with issues like this. We are dumbing down, accepting, and rationalizing antisocial behaviors and agendas. It is one of the playbook moves of antisocial/sociopathic goals: get the lie repeated and accepted.
It is not just politicians out there we should be worried about, we also glamorize our athletes, celebrities, and others who get a spotlight to shine, and they know it and use it as far as they can go to justify the endpoint. Maximize the self and personal gains, and harm ain’t a concern, as long as it ain’t them, the transgressor, being harmed.
Think about it, this dialogue about a football player walking out on the team.
That is as loud and impressionable a statement I can see!!!
Maybe Mitchell IV and Hannity can stage a WWF fight for fun and charity, call it “We’re not incognito, and try to put us in our place, you peasant bastards”.
Guarantee it would be well attended, their mob listeners will be sure to chime in where allowed. It is a shame too, as far as C-4 goes, because I get a lot of PPACA attack links from his site. Well, C-4 is way wrong on this one to me!!!
Zero tolerance for abuse, maybe kids have to stand up, but, adults need to stamp it out, and I find being fired or arrested to be one helluva way to be humiliated into possible change for the better. But, keep listening to talk show hosts who just want ya ta rumble!!!
Third addendum, yes, it says second below, but the quote in the box prevents me from going further, so this one follows number 2: Geraldo Rivera is an idiot, continuing to blow off Bill O’Reilly’s points tonight in a segment about Incognito being tossed from 3 prior teams and now with a potential criminal charge of assault by a woman prior to this Martin issue, and just repeating several times that “Martin should have just punched Incognito in the face”. Who are these freakin’ idiot media reporters who advocate for violence to resolve abuse and bullying???
I would like to punch some people in the face, but, I value my freedom and avoid being charged with assault, and also value my standing in the community, and not be known as a reckless retaliator at the very least for punching people in the face who just verbally assault me. Frankly, this pervasive push by well known figures in the local and national scene to up the ante of inappropriateness, well, I look forward to reading how their verbal assaulting of listeners or guests leads to someone punching such reporters/show hosts in the face.
Betcha those assault charges by the likes of C-4/Hannity/Rivera happen in nanoseconds, and then the florid denial, rationalization, and projections commence! Not that these media figureheads are antisocial, no, narcissists practice the same lame immature defenses too. But, idiots is a simpler and appropriate summation. Now to an earlier addendum,
Second addendum: read this from other players!
from it: “Cleeland actually was a teammate of Incognito when he was a rookie in 2005. The retired tight end does not paint a pretty picture of Incognito’s character based on that season together.
“I’m not afraid to say that he was an immature, unrealistic scumbag,” Cleeland said. “When it came down to it, he had no personality, he was a locker-room cancer, and he just wanted to fight everybody all the time. It was bizarre beyond belief.”