Several different sources for this, but the picture alone for this link is worth using it to illustrate the story:
“With suicide, there’s often talk of “warning signs.” But a new genetic discovery could be the key to creating a blood test that could, for the first time, use DNA to determine a person’s risk of suicide.
The research, published in The American Journal of Psychiatry, comes from a group of Johns Hopkins University doctors who in a series of experiments—three with brains, three with blood—found that a mutation in a specific gene involved in how the brain reacts to stress, SKA2, could predict reliably whether a person is at risk of attempting suicide.”
To tie this in to my ongoing hassles directed to the abolitionists, this is the kind of story that if responsible and appropriate dissenters of modern psychiatry would dominate discussions among the Net, they could have a legitimate field day setting this up as frank stupidity for any psychiatrist, much less an organization, to support. But, when you have people as a collective making stupid comments associating psychiatry with slavery, well, this story will instead probably maintain too much traction. And be damaging to the public.
Gentleman’s bet: I could interview 20 random people and be able to identify who is not only suicidal, but is more likely to be a possible acute risk to oneself or others before this test could identify even 67% of them. This is yet another reason for all responsible and appropriate psychiatrists to disassociate with the APA and their allies in organized psychiatry.
Note they tie this in with using it for people in the military. I hope this inflames vets even more how they are just being harassed and punished for serving, instead of being honored and supported. Sheesh!!!
Addendum July 31 PM: Random chance does play out for everyone, even Cannotsay2013 had a point in his comment about how well a psychiatrist can define suicidality in a patient:
“Even your other post about that idiotic DNA test -which I am happy you call for its absurd nature- you seem to imply that you have “magic powers” to detect with high probability who’s likely to become suicidal. However, controlled studies show that if you are like the average psychiatrist, that’s not true http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=9706123“
But, I agree I have no “magical powers” to know what the person in front of me is thinking, but, where is the qualitative abilities in this gene test to know how likely a person is to act on suicidal thought? I would think the abolitionists would be genuinely frightened by this story and agenda, because it will just further depersonalize care and interventions in general. Will a blood test note the most likely risk factors for increased risk to attempt suicide:
S ex(males > females); A ge(older > younger); D (history of) epression; P revious attempts (and degree of lethality); E thanol abuse (and opiates of late); R ational thinking (moreso LACK=psychotic features); S ocial supports (lacking); O rganized plan (more pronounced and withheld from others); N o spouse (role of grief and isolation); S ickness (chronic and terminal illnesses)
Which spell what? S A D P E R S O N S, and this pneumonic has been applicable for decades now. Oh, but I forgot another comment today from Cannotsay2013 that further prompted this addendum: “Curious 1: I do believe in the right of people to commit suicide even in cases when it is the result of “the heat of the moment”. In fact, we already apply the same standard to gay males who have unprotected sex or do not take Truvada as preemptive meausure even though we have the data to back up a coercive Truvada program as preemptive mechanism and the proof that it would work to reduce suicide (Cuba). Paternalism is not allowed with AIDS, even thought it would arguably work, so it shouldn’t be allowed with suicide either. I would put the question to you differently. We do have data as well, from the World Health Organization, to back up that the adoption of so called “mental health policies” along Western psychiatry results in an increase of suicides.”
So, per CS’13’s comment, he has no qualm with people killing themselves, even if it is likely to be prevented with appropriate interventions, and, claims that countries with mental health policies have increased rates of suicides. Hmm, because maybe those without do not identify some deaths as suicides, and, I would also hypothesize that Western cultures may run the risk of either glamorizing suicide, or having a more coarse and uncaring population that won’t make an effort to intervene when someone is struggling. Case in point CS’13?
Frankly, and this is rude and insulting to you, CS’13, but, I have to wonder what your social circle is, and, why would anyone trust you after putting the above in print on the Net. Yeah, how many people read here, but, some do, and eventually, there may be some who track down who you are even with an alias. And again, I find your comment to have the sensitivity of what Hamas deems of Israelis. Who gives a shit who lives and who dies, just don’t interfere, let us conduct our business on our terms. Seems quite the extremist point of view?
And, getting back to the point of this post at the top, do you want doctors to diagnose and treat you solely by a blood test? American Servicemen/women especially, you think this type of medical input is going to aid your care by the VA???
Reasonable and moderate psychiatry dissenters, what do you think?